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entire cities. so the turbines of today... will power us all... into the future. ♪ >> schieffer: we're back with former secretary of state, james baker, who is in texas this morning, thank you for joining us. you were part of the reagan administration back when president reagan vetoed the anti-apartheid act that randall robinson discussed here just a minute ago. i wanted to ask you, did ronald reagan ever come to regret that veto? it was over written by the congress and sanctions were put on the south african government. but how did president reagan feel about that as time went on? >> well, i'm sure he did regret it, bob, in fact i'm certain that he did. it was after all i think the only time that a veto of his had been overwritten or was overwritten in two terms, i believe. and so certainly he regretted it. on the other hand, once that happened and control of south africa policy passed through the congress, president reagan was really determined to meet with and deal with the question of -- meet with the black leaders of south africa and deal with the problems of apartheid. he was
you also understood dramatic flourish. there were moments, we saw that in 1990 when he did that eight-city tour. i think when he went to detroit he quoted marvin gay. in front of that audience, it was brilliant. mother, mother, too many of -- brother, brother, too many of you are dying, mother, mother, too many are crying. he understood the moment. >> schieffer: what did he say in new york? >> can i just tell a story. when we were doing christmas kindness in south africa go to remote villages. thousands of kids would be waiting for their soccer balls and jersey. a local politician went on for an hour about political theory. nelson mandela did twinkle, twinkle, little star and sat down. he knew the beauty of it. we were at his house, the crowd, not enough toys, crowd was getting unruly they were breaking down the fence, his security said, no, you can't go. no, oprah, you can't go. he said, i'm going. i'm going out in to the crowd. oprah said, i'm going out in the crowd. i'm saying, i'm not going to be that guy. a frightening situation. he had such faith and such trust in humankind. >> schi
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